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Old 10-29-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Godfrey has been 10.98, anyone quicker?

Wondering what the quickest times are for a 302-311 cid , Naturally Aspirated, UNPORTED head combo are? I know Tommy Godfrey has been 10.98 any others?


1. Tommy Godfrey .....10.40 w/ gt40
2. Jeremy Martorella ...10.75 w/ gt40p
3. Evan Smith ...........10.78 w/ gt40
4. Kinson Cook ..........10.82 w/ gt40p
5. mgerman93 ...........10.95 w/ afr165
6. Tommy Godfrey ......10.96 w/ e7
7. 69mach03 .............11.17 w/ afr 165

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1. Pure Stock.....10.592@126.06, 1993GT/302/TW/HydRoller/Systemax/3550
2. Quarterhorse 2.....10.910@122.10, 93/302/TFSHighPort/512-506/ VicJr./Carb/2795
3. 69mach03.....11.17@120, 94/302/AFR165/AFM N41/RPM AG/Holley750/PA C4
4. drdremal.....11.220@122.00, 83/302/VicJr. HDs/ N-91/Vic Jr./Carb/3100
5. fast fox400.....11.32@124 afr165s/fti/rpm2/gforce t5
6. FST93MSTNGGT.....11.36@119.08, 93/302/TFS/TFS Stg1/AirGap/Holley650/C-4
7. 93lx11sNA.....11.370@118.00, 81/302/TW/X303/VicJr./Carb/T5/2700
8. TOM89LX50.....11.47@117.29, 89lx/AFR165's/FTI cam/RPM EFI/T-5/4.10's/3070
9. TMC.....11.630@118.47, 302/Ported TW/AFM N-65/Holley EFI/ TR3550/3250
10. pkstang.....11.710@113.60, 90/302/TW/F303Edelbrock RPM EFI/T5/3150
11. Precision_1605.....11.72@114, 302/trickflows/compcam/C-4/carb/2930
12. 91LX5speed.....11.720@116.00, EFI/T5/3050
13. 70 Mav.....11.75@116, 91Coupe/AFR165s/TFSstg2/Typhoon/Tremec/3150
14. KWIK83.....11.768@112.28, 83GT/TW/Crane/DAVINCHI 650/VICJR/C4
15. bullit86gt.....11.770@116.90, 302/Y303/B303/Holley EFI/TR3550/3300
16. 92GreenMonster…..11.777@113.78, 92/302/AFR185/FTI/ RPM EFI/TR3550/3180
17. blueovalkid.....11.79@116, afr165/pa c4/vic jr
18. 04compGT.....11.79@114, 95gt/twheads/tf2cam/typhoon/t5/3050
19. Draggin92.....11.80@115.89 Ported Performer heads/RPM2/75TB/N51/AOD/3.73/300LB
20.nohrspwr.....11.80@113.6, explorer5.0/A5/EFI
21. fordjunky.....11.819@114.56 - - - - - - T5Z 3000
22. 418Power.....11.820@115.00, Canfield/TFSstg1/Eddy RPM/Carb/C4
23. 70 Mav.....11.83@113, 86hatch/stck shortblk/AFR165/Typhoon/FCam/c4/4.10's/2975 lb
24. L8/93LX.....11.830@117.00 93/302/PerformerRPM/E303/Performer RPM/3150
25. ramjet83.....11.8475@111.52, 83GT/TFSTW/CRANE/DAVINCHI650/VIC JR/C4/3105
26.06vistgt.....11.86@113.3, 86GT/customcam/COBRA EFI/GT40Ps
27. black86notch........11.87@113.51, 1986/302/TFS/TW/FTI/E-brock/750/Carb/C-4/2990
28. bowtieless.....11.88@114
29. scotthturner.....11.89@113, 87coupe/eddy hds/TFS1/VICJR/650CARB/C4/2830
30. FasterDamnit!.....11.900@115.00, 92/PortedTW/Typhoon/T5/3180
31. turbo50bil.....11.901@112.79, 90/GT-40X/TFS-1/GT-40/EFI/TKO500/3070
32. MARK302.....11.91@113.98, 120,000mi./TFS/GT40efi/Tremec3550/4.10's
33. bob cosby.....11.93@110, 88coupe/stock intake heads
34. Jeff W.....11.940@115.21, T5/3150
35. blackout50.....11.940@114.80, RPM EFI/Xcam/TW/T5Z/4.30/3150
36. drdremal.....11.94@114.3, 86GT/TW/NX264/SPYDER/75TB
37. SLObra.....11.95@111.7, 3100lbs/e7/e-303/c-4/
38. Sledger46.....11.95@111, 89 5.0 hatch/Canfield192s/1 5/8 LT/CobraEFI/Tmosslower/CI cam/AOD/Edge3800stall/ 4.10
39. 12sec50.....11.98@113, TFS HP's/T5/3100 race weight
40. 1slowgt.....11.980@111.00, TR3550/3240
41. Slopoke22.....12.006@110.80, 90/Edelbrock/F303/VicJr./Carb
42. silver408coupe.....12.08@111, gt40s/ecam/4.10s
43. 98 blk/blk.....12.020@115.00
44. jonathan.....12.020@110.00, C4/2930
45. SKYWLKR.....12.030@112.89, Edelbrock6037/E303/GT40EFI/TR3550/3150
46. killercanary.....12.030@112.17, 95/302/AFR165/FTI/Eddy EFI/TKO/3670
47. dy85merc.....12.11@110.47, 302/TW's/TFS1/carb's/3.73
48. breakin12s.....12.15@110, stock heads/cam/carb/t5
49. Frog.....12.20@110, 3150
50. essinem.....12.200@111.00, TR3550/3200
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list is great, looking for unported combos, i know pure stock is running fox lake ported t/w, don't know if quarterhorse is running ported high ports, majority of cars in the top 10 have ported heads
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Just look at NHRA/IHRA stock class 5.0L cars...many of them out there. I'm sure there are also lots of guys running unported out of the box aftermarkets heads that are fast.
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just found a link with Evan Smith nhra factory stock car, went 10.78 @ 122, what about any combos with aftermaket heads
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just found a link with Evan Smith nhra factory stock car, went 10.78 @ 122, what about any combos with aftermaket heads

That was with GT40s.
Im sure Godfreys have a little hidden port work.Like say,, some strategic acid porting. They are by no means JY E7 castings with some good valves and a trick valve job.
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That was with GT40s.
Im sure Godfreys have a little hidden port work.Like say,, some strategic acid porting. They are by no means JY E7 castings with some good valves and a trick valve job.
I will have to disagree on this, do you know how many times he has been tore down and passed tech?
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That was with GT40s.
Im sure Godfreys have a little hidden port work.Like say,, some strategic acid porting. They are by no means JY E7 castings with some good valves and a trick valve job.
Here we go again Torn down dozens of times, passed with flying colors EVERY TIME.
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Here we go again Torn down dozens of times, passed with flying colors EVERY TIME.
Yeah, I agree. Maybe they should tear him down for the 80th time since he must be cheating. Apparently people can't accept that just because they can't do something doesn't mean that no one can
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That was with GT40s.
Im sure Godfreys have a little hidden port work.Like say,, some strategic acid porting. They are by no means JY E7 castings with some good valves and a trick valve job.
gone through about 30 sets of heads on a flowbench to find the best two? . . . probable.

acid porting . . . probably not.
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LOL I knew this was coming. Torndown Im sure ..Im sure they CC'd the ports but that doesnt tell the whole story. Acid porting can be done in strategic parts of the port .Acid porting if done correctly is undetectable.
There is a saying "If you aint cheating you aint winning".Its about munipulating and bending the rules to the edge of "cheating". I would rather say his engine builder is that good..

You can go through 100s of E7 castings and you are not going to get 1 casting to flow enough in all eight ports to equal the performance of that 1 in a million best factory freak port.
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That was with GT40s.
Im sure Godfreys have a little hidden port work.Like say,, some strategic acid porting. They are by no means JY E7 castings with some good valves and a trick valve job.
You make claims that are 100% untrue. It truely amazes me that some like yourself have no ide of how much work/time/money/etc our team have done with our combinations. Just because your STREET car can't run these times does not mean that it can not be done.

You live by the theories of "If you aint cheating you aint winning". Better yet. Since you know so much about acid porting and getting away with cheating. Why don't you build an NMRA Factory Stock car/engine and have the NMRA tech dept tear it down. I'll bet hands down they will bust your a$$. And I have $5000.00 to call your bull####!!!! Take your allogations and put your money where your mouth is. I will.
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I would guess the majority of the 'secret' is in the cam. A stock 5.0 made what, 300lb-ft of torque? You get the cam to move the torque curve up in the rpm range, say 6500, and that's about 370hp (300lb-ft * 6500 / 5252) right there. I wouldn't be surprised if they are 'lofting' the valves, see Robin Lawrence's article in 5.0 Mustang a few years ago.
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You make claims that are 100% untrue. It truely amazes me that some like yourself have no ide of how much work/time/money/etc our team have done with our combinations. Just because your STREET car can't run these times does not mean that it can not be done.

You live by the theories of "If you aint cheating you aint winning". Better yet. Since you know so much about acid porting and getting away with cheating. Why don't you build an NMRA Factory Stock car/engine and have the NMRA tech dept tear it down. I'll bet hands down they will bust your a$$. And I have $5000.00 to call your bull####!!!! Take your allogations and put your money where your mouth is. I will.

I do realize how much time and money you put into your cars. I dont have neither the time nor the money to do what you guys are doing. I also am amazed and impressed with the performance of these cars with the rules you have to work under. I feel what you guys do with these cars helps everyone in the hobby as the things you have learned eventualy trickle down to the average guy.

I still say no set of AS CAST E7s will perform that well with the other restrictions in the class.

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What do you base your thoughts on? The fact that you can't do it? It doesn't matter, Tommy will always be called a cheater by the want-a-be's. How many times has he been found illegal?
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I do realize how much time and money you put into your cars. I dont have neither the time nor the money to do what you guys are doing. I also am amazed and impressed with the performance of these cars with the rules you have to work under. I feel what you guys do with these cars helps everyone in the hobby as the things you have learned eventualy trickle down to the average guy.

I still say no set of AS CAST E7s will perform that well with the other restrictions in the class.
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I do not hate anyone. I think it is ridiculous that people like you make accusations that someone MUST BE CHEATING to go that quick/fast. Especially a 3x CHAMP like Tommy who has been torn down and found legal every time. You name it. The NMRA has teched it. You really are clueless to the whole racing world.
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They may be deemed legal by the NMRA by their rules.I still say the castings are not "as cast" ports.

I know there are things that racers who run these classes just dont want to talk about. Some of these things are known by the builder and not the racer.
Yes or no?
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They may be deemed legal by the NMRA by their rules.I still say the castings are not "as cast" ports.
lol. I love you guys. I will add you to the lists of people who do not understand anything about real heads up racing. I could give my heads to 50 other people and I bet it would not run the numbers my car does. It's the combo of the engine ( which has been checked throughout ) and the entire chassis. And for you to " Think " the ports are not as cast you are completely clueless. Believe that tech has checked my heads every which way they can to hope they find acid porting or anything different. They even went out of there way to find a stock head and measure it out and mine came up smaller.

How about you keep your opinions to yourself because when you come out and race and your looking at tech holding your piston in his hand at 10:30pm on saturday night after you drove 12hours and you have to have your engine back together and in your car by 1st round @ 9am so you can win a championship and a race you can start judging what you " THINK " is legit.

And I will be dramtically lowering my unported as cast et numbers next weekend at the world cup. I ran the 10.96 last year heavier and on a drag radial. Next weekend it's game on.
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You've definitely "hit" the setup. That thing hauls ass...I've seen it in person. I'd say you've done your homework, it shows. I'd love to have a setup that performs like yours.
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10 seconds on stock parts is freaking awesome. Props to you man.
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Some stock parts. Cobra intake, e'7's w/ valve job and 1.85 1.55 valves. But still rolling for and E7
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:55 AM   #24
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Blackout... why are you such a nonbeliever? And don't say "I have my reasons not to believe" Where do you base your conclusions from? What makes you say otherwise?
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:57 PM   #25
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Blackout... why are you such a nonbeliever? And don't say "I have my reasons not to believe" Where do you base your conclusions from? What makes you say otherwise?
everyone has to learn the lesson . . . I called out a guy when I was younger over having something he didn't.

You are out money, look like a moron, and still have to figure out a way to make more power regardless.
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Tommy and Bruce I give you guys props. keep up the good work on getting those stock parts to work. Good luck at the world cup.
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Tommy you gonna be able to keep the front tires on the ground this coming weekend?
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I was hoping I could get mine in the 10s with the stock bottom end and unported AFR 165s but racing is over with for me until Feb. Nice to be a part of the list, though!
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Tommy you gonna be able to keep the front tires on the ground this coming weekend?
Nope . I'm planning on taking down the 10.78 number though
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whats the 10.78 (Evan Smith was he E7 headed car or gt40)number you are gunning for??? you planning on rowing the first 3 gears in the air? Just dont mess up the pretty bumper you have there.... trust me it looks real good pulling away like i was standing still(twice)
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whats the 10.78 (Evan Smith was he E7 headed car or gt40)number you are gunning for??? you planning on rowing the first 3 gears in the air? Just dont mess up the pretty bumper you have there.... trust me it looks real good pulling away like i was standing still(twice)
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whats the 10.78 (Evan Smith was he E7 headed car or gt40)number you are gunning for??? you planning on rowing the first 3 gears in the air? Just dont mess up the pretty bumper you have there.... trust me it looks real good pulling away like i was standing still(twice)
Yeah Evan is a GT40 / G5R Trans, super stocker. I think my E7 record is safe. I plan on putting the GT40 record in my name this weekend now
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Yeah Evan is a GT40 / G5R Trans, super stocker. I think my E7 record is safe. I plan on putting the GT40 record in my name this weekend now
its a nhra stocker, bro... but it is a super car. good luck this weekend...sniifff sniffff 10.70s??
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its a nhra stocker, bro... but it is a super car. good luck this weekend...sniifff sniffff 10.70s??
I know I was talking to Evan for awhile in my pits at B.G. about the 2 cars. that's what I said. I wish I had some of the parts he can run. I'm sniffin' for .60's
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