Originally Posted by Zangel
I am sorry and I never wanted you to lose money out of this deal. However, I have also lost an extremely large amount. I agree that Ricky might have been lied to, but does that mean that it is fair for me to take the entire hit? I am told that I could not run this turbo as is, although I never tried. I wouldn’t want to risk messing up something else on my car.
It was my understanding that both of you knew the facts of that turbo. Even Ricky said that you knew more about the turbo…. And I trusted both of you. I am not saying that either of you intentionally screwed me, but the fact still remains that something went wrong and I feel as if something should be done to make this deal fair. That is the reason that you were dragged into this whole mess.
I agree, we should have come to a resolution and yes, I do feel bad about making both of you miss work. Who knows how long this trial is going to take. However, I am out thousands of dollars because of some wrong information. I felt as if $500 wasn’t much too ask considering I will be out more than $1200. I even offered to take a little at a time since he said that he was selling off parts. After all is said and done, I would still be spending more than I would have on a brand new turbo. I think we all got stuck in a really ****ty situation but I stand my position and firmly believe that I shouldn’t be responsible for the entire amount.
I never said for it to be ran as is, now that it has been discovered to be damaged. I also do not think I ever said you should take the entire hit, I even said what I would do if *I* was ever in a similar situation as a seller. However I can see how as a seller, a person might say fine take it to court when it is quickly being thrown at them as an "option". I know I would be wondering why threats of courts happen so quickly when so much time has passed and would have no way of knowing 100% if this is even the same head unit and it defineately was never used since leaving the seller's hands. I would think surely anyone could put themselves in those shoes and have to get doubts, now how they react upon those doubts is entirely up to that individual.
You said you were told it could not be run as is, did they expand upon what would happen if it were ran? Ricky being lied to and perhaps the guy he bought it from being lied to certainly does not justify anyone losing money. However it could explain why people are stating conflicting things about what it is. Really everyone is out of money who has owned it except maybe the only user of it had it been in a non runnable condition when sold as a runnable turbo.
Yes I probably did know more about the turbo than he did after all I was online in turbo mustang forums every day and for hours on end and reading every single post. So I saw probably every post ever made by the owners of that turbo in regards to turbo mustang forums. However none of the information I passed on at the time was outside of what was in said forums. Now after so much time I think all those posts are gone partly because a) the Corral lost their entire old power adder forum when trying to split it into the three that exist today b) tm.com deletes older posts I know in certain forums if not all of them and c) I think some of the posts were on the old tm.com which its database was lost awhile back due to some computer hackers. I do know at one point in the past couple of months I searched for some of those posts for you and failed to find anything from that far back.
So if I read that right all of this mess could have been avoided for $500? That certainly seems rather generous and understanding on your end and definately does not seem like a person trying to pull something. After all someone trying to pull something I think would go for the full amount and then some. Not that I ever thought you were trying to pull something, I just make that comment due to some of the replies in this thread that I think imply that of you.
If things would have been approached differently I'd maybe even considered pitching in towards that $500 since I typically have a tight window I can actually work, so it is hard to make up lost hours for me. However I am chalking this all up as a learning experience to try and avoid ever telling someone any details that I know about something used for sale no matter how sure I am that what I am passing on is the facts. Because after all had all I said at the time was hey contact this username because I think he/she has for sale what you are looking for, then I would not be getting dragged in the middle of a dispute that could have been resolved for $500[/edit]
Just as a side note, for not more than $1200 you could buy a brand new better turbo, I think a PT76-GTS is sometimes new for $1300-1400 from shops and supposeably worth more power than a Q-trim T76 with or without a ball bearing. But do not take my word on that, read around and you will see why I make that statement on the GTS.
Oh well talking about this online is pointless, both of you seem to be set in stone to just take it to court. So I guess if the court tells me to show up for a trial then "I will see you in court". I would be curious as to what the answers to the two questions I put in this post in the above paragraphs are. Beyond that there is really no point in anyone posting in this thread any longer so best of luck to you in getting the right thing done, whatever the right thing might be in this situation I guess a judge will decide on.