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post #1 of 22 Old 10-13-2009, 07:20 PM Thread Starter
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Replacement Door VIN Stickers?

My '88 GT suffered a sideswipe before I owned it, and now wears the driver's door from a '93 LX. Unfortunately, it also has the VIN tag from that '93, which is a bit confusing.

Is there anywhere I can get a new, correct, door tag for my '88?

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ask that same question at www.mustanggt.org

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stickers

i talked to guys at saleen and they told me that i would have to contact ford. but must of the time on foxbodys they only have them for special editions. that is what they said. i will tell you more in a couple of days when i call ford.
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there is not much alternative other than

a saw and 4 rivets...


you still need to have the other ORIGINAL CHASSIS v.i.n. able to be easily seen...

I have gone down the road that you are only now about to travel.
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I still have the correct VIN on the cowl and on the hatch sticker, so I know which car I have, and it got through CA DMV. Just hoping to find the door sticker. If not, this one will just get removed when I paint the car, and it will be missing rather than obviously wrong. Thanks, all.
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Hell, leave it on. at least that sticker proves that it is an OEM door, and not an aftermarket jap door.

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You may want to check out Phoenix Graphix.

www.phoenixgraphix.com

They might be able to make one for you.

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You may want to check out Phoenix Graphix.

www.phoenixgraphix.com

They might be able to make one for you.

not sure on the legality of that

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You cannot get replacement VIN decals anywhere - not aftermarket and not through Ford. Once the original VIN decal has been marred, damaged, removed, painted over, etc - that's the end of it, period.

It is a liability risk - this is why Ford will never reprint those VIN decals for anyone. This also holds true for the metal VIN affixed to the top of the dash and the large white B-pillar or door decal. Also, no aftermarket Company is authorized to make such reprints either.

The only replacement VIN decal you will ever see on a genuine Ford replacement body panel or sheet metal is one that looks exactly like the original VIN decal, however, there is no VIN # on it. The decal is white, the background has small Ford Blue Ovals and on the actual decal will be printed "DOT-R" - which is a replacement crash panel, approved by DOT.

Ford also will not replace VIN decals that have come off of the vehicle due to moisture or water getting underneath of them or if they were hit w/ a pressure washer, etc... Even if the decal is peeling back, it cannot be replaced.

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Legality? its a sticker on a body panel. it isnt for identifying the body's actual vin tag lol. The vin tag you can goto prison for is held down with rosette rivits. rivits that are illegal to possess unless you are a body shop owner.


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I need one as well on my 88. Some dumb a** decided to paint the jambs and half way tape the sticker.
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easier to remove the paint off it

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Which "sticker" are we talking about here? The small sticker of just the VIN that is on every major body panel on the car OR the large sticker on rear face of the the driver-side door (Vehicle Certification Label) with the scheduled build date, VIN, exterior and interior colors, radio, axle ratio, and transmission?
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We are talking about the stickers on the hood, bumper cover, fenders, doors, quarter panels inside the trunk/hatch, on the trunk/hatch and rear bumper cover.

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Legality? its a sticker on a body panel. it isnt for identifying the body's actual vin tag lol. The vin tag you can goto prison for is held down with rosette rivits. rivits that are illegal to possess unless you are a body shop owner.

For argument's sake - The Federal Government mandated that all vehicles manufactured after 1986 has to have a VIN labeling system. The reason for this Federal law was to cut down on theft of not only vehicles, but vehicle parts. The VIN could be etched or attached by the means of a decal.

So, sure, it may be just a "sticker" on a body panel, but it identifies which vehicle that part belongs to (or came from).


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The Federal Motor Vehicle Theft Law Enforcement Act of 1984 became law on October 25, 1984. The standard applies to both major parts and all motor vehicles produced during the 1987 model year and all sequential models produced thereafter.

The 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number must be inscribed on the engine, transmission, both front fenders, hood, both doors, both bumpers, both rear quarter panels and the deck lid or hatchback (whichever is present). The VIN taken from the stated locations shall provide a true description of the vehicle to which it is assigned.
good site for checking VIN's: https://www.nicb.org/cps/rde/xchg/ni.../vincheck.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1

I don't know about any of you, but when I come across a used vehicle that has either missing VIN decals or I see no VIN decals, there are questions that do arise.

Also one other important note to VIN labels on aftermarket crash replacement panels: There is NO aftermarket Company around that is allowed to place a VIN "DOT-R" label on ANY of their reproduced parts. If you have a vehicle that was involved in a collision and those parts replaced were done so w/ aftermarket replacement crash panels, there will not be any "DOT-R" sticker. This is because the part was not approved by DOT, as it may not meet the traditional crash safety standards as those of the ORIGINAL manufactured part.

Many Dealer genuine replacement crash panels will have a "DOT-R" decal affixed to them and these labels are not to be removed, as it shows that the panel was replaced w/ a DOT approved part.


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Which "sticker" are we talking about here? The small sticker of just the VIN that is on every major body panel on the car OR the large sticker on rear face of the the driver-side door (Vehicle Certification Label) with the scheduled build date, VIN, exterior and interior colors, radio, axle ratio, and transmission?
Well, _I_ was talking about what you call the Vehicle Certification Label, which CA DMV seemed concerned was wrong. Some others seem to have gone another way with this thread. My take is that no one has a source for the VCL, which is really too bad, since it is affixed to a part that does indeed get damaged in crashes that are far from totalling the entire car.
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Marti Auto (.com) re-prints VC Labels for I think around $35 but I'm not sure how far forward they go. I know they do them for the four-eye cars. And I'm pretty sure that they need the data from the old label, so you're going to have to figure out what it all was.
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what's the best way to protect them when you do get it painted. just blue tape?
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I needed my Vehicle Identification stickers replaced a while back on my Fox Body. I found 3 companies that makes them. I went with this company right here. Vehicle Vin Stickers They were the cheapest and when I talked to them, they seemed to be the most knowledgeable and easiest to work with. I would highly recommend them.
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I needed my Vehicle Identification stickers replaced a while back on my Fox Body. I found 3 companies that makes them. I went with this company right here. Vehicle Vin Stickers They were the cheapest and when I talked to them, they seemed to be the most knowledgeable and easiest to work with. I would highly recommend them.
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Interesting and illegal. The pseudo "company" listed by hankster13 is operated out of a residential home in Indiana. They also operate a salvage yard for junked cars. (That is certainly "interesting" regarding reproducing Federal VIN labels.) They are not licensed or approved to offer or manufacture these labels. I own ECS VIN and we are the only Company exclusively contracted & licensed by the Auto Manufacturers to reproduce these labels. Any other company advertising this service is in violation of trademark infringement.

We use the correct tamper resistant material and have proprietary vehicle information from the Manufacturers to guard against VIN fraud. The "pretenders" in the Industry do not have access to the Manufacturers databases, are not approved to reproduce these items and are illegally infringing on the their trademarks. They are free wheeling and operate under no authorized rules or regulations. It is a liability for a reputable Collision Repair Center to use replacement decals that are being bootlegged and not approved. ECS VIN is the selected/contracted vendor for Companies such Car Star, ABRA, Driven Brands, FCA, General Motors, Ferrari, Toyota, etc..... We are PPAP certified and a Tier One Supplier to the Automotive Industry.

Below is a link to our website and Consumer reports & comparisons from reputable sources in the Collision Industry. Thanks!

ECS Automotive Concepts - Late Model Replacement VIN Door Decals
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Thanks for posting. Kind of spendy though!

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