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Old 09-26-2007, 05:54 AM   #1
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Best year 302?

Yeah, what year should I pick for my new engine, '86-'95?
And why?

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I'm building myself a really fast street-/strip- car and I need a place to start. In the end I'll need a new block and everything but for starters I want a suitable engine to begin with. I want to get a aftermarket EFI and It'll probably take a while to get the hang of it. No need to blow up a $15000 engine due to bad tuning and general n0ob mistakes.
Plus I'll have a running car while building the freak engine...
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:02 AM   #2
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86-95? All are thin cast blocks and will cost no where near $15000 to build. It would be a good idea to start with a good foundation like a dart, world, or boss 302 casting.
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Ehrrr, well no...

I'm planning on using a Dart Aluminum race block later on with a lot of goodies. That will be the $15000 build.

The stock 302 (the one I'm asking about) will be used to try out the new EFI and to keep the car running while I work on the other engine.
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1969 302

Or a Mexican roller block. <---im not trying to be funny.
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I'm planning on using a Dart Aluminum race block later on with a lot of goodies. That will be the $15000 build.


And you havent even built your first engine?.....

If this is your first kick at it...buy a fresh stock 302..tinker, blow it up, buy another one...tinker, blow it up...

Until you eventually learn what you want...and that way you will NOT have alot invested in your education...
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86+ blocks are all basically the same, no real difference one way or the other. The factory pistons differ a bit from year to year, but if you're rebuilding it half the time it'll need to be bored and the pistons will become ashtrays or scrap metal anyway.
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And you havent even built your first engine?.....

If this is your first kick at it...buy a fresh stock 302..tinker, blow it up, buy another one...tinker, blow it up...

Until you eventually learn what you want...and that way you will NOT have alot invested in your education...
I have built engines before, just no V8.
That's why I'm getting the 302, to have an engine in the car and a way to experiment with the EFI (and maybe some other crazy ideas?). At the moment I have a car but no engine.

As for the tinkering bit... I'll have plenty of time for tinkering while I get the rest of the car figured out. The engine is actually the easy part.
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Best 302 Ford ever built:




You won't find any for cheap.


Get any stock 302 engine from the junkyard, they're all the same after 1975. If you want SEFI, stick with the 86-01 ones.
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1969 302

Or a Mexican roller block. <---im not trying to be funny.
ive always wanted to know what the differnce is between an "american" 302 and the "mexican" 302? any one got an explination?
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Yeah, what year should I pick for my new engine, '86-'95?
And why?

Background:
I'm building myself a really fast street-/strip- car and I need a place to start. In the end I'll need a new block and everything but for starters I want a suitable engine to begin with. I want to get a aftermarket EFI and It'll probably take a while to get the hang of it. No need to blow up a $15000 engine due to bad tuning and general n0ob mistakes.
Plus I'll have a running car while building the freak engine...
Why do you want aftermarket EFI? What's wrong with the stock mass air EEC with a TwEECer?

Why have you chosen a budget of $15k for your next engine? Why not just pick a performance goal? You can run 10s in the 1/4 and make good turns on the track for a lot less than $15,000. Put $6k into the engine and the rest into the drivetrain and suspension.

If you're new to Fords, the 5.0 has been around a long time, from 68 to 01. Instead of telling you the "best" year, how about you tell us the application? It's hard to go wrong with buying an 89-92 V8 Mustang so you've already got the engine, wiring, chassis all put together for you. If you're sticking this into a Civic, well, then maybe a 5.0 isn't the "best" thing to do.

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Why do you want aftermarket EFI? What's wrong with the stock mass air EEC with a TwEECer?
With Autronic sm4 I get fully sequential fuel and spark. I can controll everything and use a map + tps sensor as opposed to mass air.
Easier to set up, less fragile and it looks good.

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Why have you chosen a budget of $15k for your next engine?
If I can do it ceaper I'll be a happy man but I estimate $15000 to be a realistic number.

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Why not just pick a performance goal? You can run 10s in the 1/4 and make good turns on the track for a lot less than $15,000. Put $6k into the engine and the rest into the drivetrain and suspension.
I do have a performance goal: mid 9's in the 1/4.
Enginewise that should equate to +700bhp give or take some? It all depends on traction...
The drivetrain and suspension is getting a major overhaul as well. Heck, I'm rebuilding the entire car from the ground up.
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If you're new to Fords, the 5.0 has been around a long time, from 68 to 01. Instead of telling you the "best" year, how about you tell us the application?
Street-/Drag- car, Cobra II body with custom spaceframe chassis. (Or back halved car at least)

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It's hard to go wrong with buying an 89-92 V8 Mustang so you've already got the engine, wiring, chassis all put together for you. If you're sticking this into a Civic, well, then maybe a 5.0 isn't the "best" thing to do.

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No, not a civic.
How come you picked the 89-92 engines/cars?
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