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Old 04-03-2002, 12:49 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Autozone P/S pump rebuild kit SUCKS!!!!

I was trying to save a few dollars and rebuild my power steering pump... all that was wrong with it was that the front seal was leaking... so I go to get a front seal and see that they have a complete rebuild kit so I get that instead.... It contains all the seals and a new steel bushing for the pulley shaft...

First thing about the kit... the instructions might as well have been left out completely or should have said something like "take apart pump, replace seals, and put back together"... they made no sence! I finally figured out what they were trying to say after a while and about the time I get everything put back together and all I have to do is put a big ring in that is supposed to go in this groove that holds the whole pump together but it won't stay in there... I checked 3 times, and it was put back together right... it just wouldn't stay in... finally I just got fed up with dealing with the BS and went and got a new pump, I had had it by this point... I had been working on this stupid thing for 5 hours!!!!!!! Now I am pissed that I just didn't go and get a new pump to begin with.. they are only $30!! That way atleast I wouldn't have wasted an entire day for nothing!

Anyone else know of anything sold by the parts stores that are worthless junk!!!!
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Autozone sucks period!! I have to set aside atleast 30min to go in Autozone... even if Im getting 1 quart of oil!! They barely have what you need when you need it and their tools SUCK!!!
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Actually I used one of their pulley pullers and it worked quite well. Unfortunately Autozone is the only big name place in town. all of the other places like NAPA, and 688 are kinda uppity and higher priced around here...
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Re: Autozone P/S pump rebuild kit SUCKS!!!!

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Now I am pissed that I just didn't go and get a new pump to begin with.. they are only $30!! That way atleast I wouldn't have wasted an entire day for nothing!
Where can you get a new pump for $30? Also, would that help stop the whining? I would gladly pay $30 to stop that whining sound! Mine's one of the louder ones, too.
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Lightbulb Big ring thing...

If its the ring thing that I'm thinking of ...You use a (or,"I" use ..)
a vise and a socket or any thing that you can use to compress the belvedear spring (Or whet ever the rite name is!) its a thurst washer....I hope you didn't change the bushing! I've done mine of these and once you figure it out it an't bad...If you need any help with it , e-mail me..
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I liek A/Z over most of them. At least they register your parts int he computer for warranty
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I liek A/Z over most of them. At least they register your parts int he computer for warranty
There's my problem with them right there. They have to do that, because they know most of their parts are garbage. When I upgraded to a 3G alternator, I went and got one of theirs. It lasted for 2 months. Got another, it was broken when I got it. Got yet another, and it was broken too. Went and had the local alternator rebuilder make me a 3G, no problems with it and I've run with it for over a year.

I also went through 3 water pumps.

Of course, these are just my expierences, though. I'm sure there have been people who've gotten along just fine on the parts from them. Kudos. My parts and the service, have both been subpar.
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Here is my next rant.... the new P/S pump I got is loud as a mofo and doesn't seem to be working all that well... I might have got a ****ed up one... I went through the whole installation and bleeding ritual as it says to do in my Haynes (or is it Chilton's I can't remember) but it still whines.. I am hoping it works itself out and goes away! If not I might be getting a new one. Also what I liked about my old pump was it was quiet and it had the nice black reservoir, the one I got whines and has the nasty baby crap yellow reservoir.... by the way the one I replaced was the original Ford one that came on the car from 1988 maybe they can't be rebuilt without a little whining??? who knows I might just take it back to autozone, and go to Ford for a new one if the whining doesn't stop!!!!!!

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I am going to be getting a new power steering pump for my car when I put the engine back in.

I am going to get a rebuilt one from NAPA because the I think their rebuilders likely do a better job than the Autozone ones. I don't buy anything rebuilt through Autozone.

The NAPA one is more expensve (about $65), but will be worth it for it to work.

Anyone get a NAPA rebuild? Experiences? Or should I just go with the AGX (?) pumps they sell in Summit for $140?
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i've allways used the Ford rebuild kit. It cost about $15 and includes new o-rings and seals. They have always come apart and gone back together with no problems at all.
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The AGX pwr steering pump is listed at $113.68. Summit does sell for $129.95 though. It sounds like a good option and I'm considering it. I emailed AGX to see if there was less fluid restriction and hence less parasitic drag from their pumps compared to the stock pieces. No response yet. The good thing is their reservoirs are black and not the ugly stock yellow.

BTW Auto Specialties lists an underdrive power steering pulley for $28 to use on 87-93 Stangs. Supposedly its a 25% reduction in rotation yet they say it doesn't significantly hinder the performance of the pump. I'm gonna try it.
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The AGX pwr steering pump is listed at $113.68. Summit does sell for $129.95 though. It sounds like a good option and I'm considering it. I emailed AGX to see if there was less fluid restriction and hence less parasitic drag from their pumps compared to the stock pieces. No response yet. The good thing is their reservoirs are black and not the ugly stock yellow.
Checked the Summit site, and they are AGR pumps (my mistake)

I am interested in what you hear from AGR.

Do you know if the pumps are new or rebuilt? If you have a e-mail address and/or website for AGR that would be much appreciated!

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I'll let you know what I hear from AGR. I believe the pumps are NEW and involve an improved design. According to them anyways.

BTW go to Summit Site and click on Manufacturers. They've got a link to the AGR Site there. (I don't remember it).

So has anyone tried one of these underdrive pwr steering pullies?
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i've allways used the Ford rebuild kit. It cost about $15 and includes new o-rings and seals. They have always come apart and gone back together with no problems at all.
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the rebuild kit was fine, I guess, other than the lack of understandable instructions... how did you get the retaining ring back in there??? I compressed the valve cover like they said and the ring just wouldn't go all the way down!!!

I was thinking about getting the Ford or the AGR pump too.. I am not happy with the pump and I have only driven it for about an hour.....
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Thanks for letting us know. I was going to get the Autozone PS pump also because my OE steering pump whines like a son of biatch. If you change it out and it doesn't whine let us know.
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If any of you use "power steering fluid" in it, then it will whine. The book calls for Type F automatic transmission fluid to be used in the PS pump.

What are you all running in your power steering pumps?
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I've always run power steering fluid in it.. but since this is a new pump I could easily change over... will the power steering fluid react with the type F?? also how do you completely drain a power steering system without getting A) air in the system and B) get all the old power steering fluid out?
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You could disconnect the return line on the power steering pump and put it into a container of some sort. Then start the car up and be ready to start adding new fluid. It's going to be flushing out the old while you add new.
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If any of you use "power steering fluid" in it, then it will whine. The book calls for Type F automatic transmission fluid to be used in the PS pump.

What are you all running in your power steering pumps?
I just looked in my Chiltons and it says to use only power steering fluid....
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If you just replaced it drive it for a day or two if it still whines theres a problem. I repalce pumps on ford trucks on a regular basis as I am a fleet mechanic. They always whine for a while. I dont know what the instructions say with the pump, but if you will take the cap off start the engine and turn the sterring all the way locked to one side and hold it locked for about 10 secs then turn it the other way and do the same.Kee[ doing this until it quietens down. that will get alot of the air out. Give it a few days and it should be pretty quiet. Ford pumps are notorious for being noisy "especially" rebuilt ones. I always use rebuilt ones from Oreillys and they seem to work and last fine and are relatively quiet.
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Well I looked in my Haynes manual and my 1988 "Ford Shop Manual" and they both say to use Type F.

I used to have a Chilton and it seems like it only covered 79-85 Mustangs? The one I had was old anyways.

Also, a long time ago when I used to have power steering, and I only had my old Chilton, I too ran "power steering fluid". Then I found out about using Type F. I switched fluids and noticed that it ran a lot quieter using Type F.
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I put one of those autozone pumps on my F-150. I grabbed
a spray can of black paint and covered over the yellow
since it looked hideous. The price was right and the free
pulley puller couldn't be beat.

It's noisy as a mofo after two years but still works. If it
fails I can go get another one for free. I may try type F
instead of power steering fluid to see if the noise goes
away.

Their new water pumps aren't bad, either, and the
price is right.

One thing I have noticed - a severe price difference
between AZ and other stores. For example, I needed
a new serpentine belt for my truck. Was about $18 at
AZ and about $38 at Oriellys. Also, I bought a new
timing chain & gears for my truck. Was $16 at AZ and
$36 at Pep Boys for the same part made by the same
manufacturer, in the same box.

Some stuff you get at AZ is good. Some is questionable.
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I think the lower prices are because AutoZone sells more volume.
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I did notice that the fitting on the side where the high pressure line enters... they just RTV'd it instead of using a gasket like the did on my original Ford unit....
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Lightbulb "Still couldn't get the retaining ring in..."

When ever you disass. the p/s pump make sure and mark the ends,and the center sec. + the relation to the pump housing....
You must have had the inside a little out of wack to cause the end plate thing not to go down far enough to get the ring in...
Also if the pick up "Tube" is not positioned right in the resiover
it will cause the pump to pick up air which will cause it to whine..(pick up tube must be @ bottom of resiover)
Real dosen't matter weather you run p/s fluid or trans fluid..I always use trans fluid cause its cheaper...P/S fluid an't nothing but Hyd oil....the p/s system is a "Open center" ie flows all the time,to bleed just turn the wheel lock to lock...after that driving it around a bit will get any air left in the system out...Not mister know it all! Just some things I've learned over time fix'en Fords!!!
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