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Old 06-05-2009, 03:46 AM   #1
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SBF with Main Girdle destruction pics plz.

I would like to see some real proof not hearsay that a main girdle doesnt work. If ya dont mind putting the power you were making when it went south that would be helpful too.

I dont want this to turn into a debate I would really just like to see hard facts (pictures) on it.Thanks.
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And here we go.


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search function is your friend.

Was some pic's not to long ago posted on here.

Found one..look in this thread

Main Girdle do anything?
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I would like to see some real proof not hearsay that a main girdle doesnt work.
Just be like the rest of the nutswingers and buy one. You can post some real proof, not hearsay, about the effectiveness of a girdle. LUK
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I would like to see some real proof not hearsay that a main girdle doesnt work. If ya dont mind putting the power you were making when it went south that would be helpful too.

I dont want this to turn into a debate I would really just like to see hard facts (pictures) on it.Thanks.
I would like to see some real proof not hearsay that a Bigfoot doesn't exist.




And the chances are just as good.

You cannot prove a negative.
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And the chances are just as good.

You cannot prove a negative.

Please, Mark, this the corral. Everything is possible.
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Please, Mark, this the corral. Everything is possible.

I'm getting that....it's kinda like YellowBullet Political Section...with cars.....

I don't mind it
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^^^That doesn't mean they suck. Just because someone says so. Proof is what he's looking for. Actually just destruction pics. Where are those?
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^^^That doesn't mean they suck. Just because someone says so. Proof is what he's looking for. Actually just destruction pics. Where are those?
well, if you actually would use search, you would find them
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47001.....Some people will always be lambs.

You know that saying, If you can't find the sucker at the poker table, look in the mirror.
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^^^That doesn't mean they suck. Just because someone says so. Proof is what he's looking for. Actually just destruction pics. Where are those?
Dude KATO uses caps......


In a 302 main girdles serve mainly to limit damage. The trick really is, don't break the block.
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is this going to be like the DSS main girdle post of last month that went 6 pages
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I just don;t get the intense debate.

I make the darned things and I don't care about them as much as some of these guys.
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I just don;t get the intense debate.

I make the darned things and I don't care about them as much as some of these guys.
Because you are the one reaping the rewards of ignorance.
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Because you are the one reaping the rewards of ignorance.
I am doing what business does. Filling a demand.






Your wife doesn't NEED that dildo either............

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Its not a wonderpart

1-Mainstuds instead of bolts
2-It "limits" journal walk to an extent and limits bearing damage<-I've seen proof.
3-It also increases the chance of saving some/all of my internals if i ever push it too hard.


I've been DD my racecar for over 3 years and almost 40k and oil pressure has maintained 100%. A Nitroused 7000rpm 50oz 331 with clevite race bearings Daily Driven is a good testament to its usefulness. You might argue its effectiveness in certain applications, cost vs. benefit but to say its a part for the ignorant makes you ignorant.


--I'll let you know in another three years how the bearings look because she still runs like day 1.
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Here is a pic of a trashed girdle that my buddy bought from a guy on here. He obviously didn't know it had been through an engine failure. Pics are near the end of the thread......

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who is kato besides one of the most arrogant and annoying members of this forum?
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who is kato besides one of the most arrogant and annoying members of this forum?
X1 million. He spends as much time cutting people down as he does on tech. Nobody should be getting cut down.
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Albeit he does come off ass an arrogant #####, his information is usually right.

He goes into depth in one of his posts I believe, although there has been a ton of topics on this subject, that details why girdles don't work but I am not about to go find it.
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I think this one is pretty simple to solve. He's looking for split blocks that had a girdle on them. I dont remember seeing any, but I have a Dart block so I really dont care, lol.

If there are none, it must be the girdle saving them.........right?
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Wrong.

If I have a girdle on my 350whp it must be the girdle saving it...right?
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Its not a wonderpart

1-Mainstuds instead of bolts
2-It "limits" journal walk to an extent and limits bearing damage<-I've seen proof.
3-It also increases the chance of saving some/all of my internals if i ever push it too hard.


I've been DD my racecar for over 3 years and almost 40k and oil pressure has maintained 100%. A Nitroused 7000rpm 50oz 331 with clevite race bearings Daily Driven is a good testament to its usefulness. You might argue its effectiveness in certain applications, cost vs. benefit but to say its a part for the ignorant makes you ignorant.


--I'll let you know in another three years how the bearings look because she still runs like day 1.
How can you tell when it works? Does it work when you have the right tune? IDK. You only really know when it doesn't work.

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Wrong.

If I have a girdle on my 350whp it must be the girdle saving it...right?
I forgot to add the "/sarcasm" at the end of my post.

There is no way to prove that they work. Pics of a split block that had a main support will prove they don't.
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I have a 9.5 to 1 333 with no girdles and stock bolts. It runs 9.70/9.74@137 shifting at 7600 runnin out the back 7800 on the gas. It's been together alittle over 2 years and haven't broke the first gasket on it. I have the top and bottom girdles for it that someone gave me that i am gonna put on the motor, but only to help save some parts and a mess if it does split.
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I forgot to add the "/sarcasm" at the end of my post.

There is no way to prove that they work. Pics of a split block that had a main support will prove they don't.

I've seen one.


Just one.


But it doesn't mean much.
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No changes, just bearings and girdle. 7000rpm 28oz 347 Nitrous stock block 35ish passes. bearing started going early, oil pressure fell off a little., everything looked fine except the bearings were showing wear. Reassembled with new bearings and main girdle. Motor was run the same way for ~50 more. Was pulled apart and bearings looked great I saw this with my own eyes and have piece of mind pushing my combination till i can afford the new SHP dart. How many people have saved $$$ by saving parts when their 331-347 came apart. I know a guy whos on stock block number 3. Same internals. Not everyone builds their engine the same. Just because you nutswing on someone intellegent who builds engines and has formed their own opinions based on experiences doesn't make you qualified to ruin threads and show your real experience which is none.
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I forgot to add the "/sarcasm" at the end of my post.

There is no way to prove that they work. Pics of a split block that had a main support will prove they don't.

it won't prove #### because a girdle wasn't designed to keep a block together. It doesn't even sit on the block. where is your mind?
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it won't prove #### because a girdle wasn't designed to keep a block together. It doesn't even sit on the block. where is your mind?
What are they for exactly?
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